Mary Ann and Frederic
Brussat are journalists and have spent over thirty years identifying
and reviewing resources for people on spiritual journeys. They are
co-authors of Spiritual
Literacy: Reading the Sacred in Everyday Life, a resource of on
how to read the text of our lives and the world around us for sacred
meaning, and more recently, they have also co-authored Spiritual
Rx: Prescriptions for Living a Meaningful Life. They live in New
York City.
Kristen Fairchild:What
is spiritual literacy?
Mary
Ann:Spiritual literacy is the ability to read the text of your own
lives for spiritual meaning. That means looking at the things you
encounter, the animals you encounter, the people, the places where
you are, looking at your relationships, looking at all your activities
and seeing that within them there is a significance and meaning.
The medieval monks used to say that the world was liber mundi,
a book to be read. In Islamic tradition, they will say that everything
is a letter from God that you're supposed to read. If you're Native
American and you walk through the wilderness, they talk about "reading
sign." So if a bird appears, it has meaning. That bird is a sign.
So spiritual literacy is recognizing that everything you encounter
in your daily life is a sign that can be read.

And
many different traditions embrace this idea?
Yes,
I think it is a thread throughout all the spiritual traditions and
it's really almost like a template on experience. In the book we talk
about how we often look at life through a haze filter, like a filter
a photographer will put on a lens. The idea of spiritual literacy
is that you don't really change the scene you're looking at through
the lens but you eliminate some of the haze in front of it so that
the colors are richer and life seems deeper.
William
Blake tells us that if the doors of perception were cleansed, we
would see life as it truly is: infinite.
Yes. Exactly. That
is what spiritual literacy is about: The ability to see clearly.
You
point out that children and indigenous cultures are accustomed to
reading life in a spiritual way. Why is that?
I think the cultures
of a lot of indigenous people encourage spiritual literacy. They encourage
a person to, for example, read the weather from the position of the
clouds or from the wind in the trees. They would encourage someone
to talk about their dreams and some of the other ways in which the
imaginal worlds comes into consciousness. o these are all parts of
spiritual literacy that are ingrained in those cultures. With children
it is simply that they look at life with openness and wonder. There
is an attention that children will bring to whatever they are doing
that are markers of spiritual literacy.
Being
able to look at the world with awe.
Right. Awe. Wonder.
Enthusiasm. There is a wonderful story in the book about a child who
gets the part of the Bethlehem star in Christmas pageant and she bursts
into her mother's house after the first rehearsal with a sandwich
board star on her body and her mother says, "What do you do in the
play?" and the little girl says, "I just stand there and shine." That's
precisely spiritual literacy: to believe that you can go through life,
standing and shining, and being open to experience. Enthusiasm means
to be part of the breath of God.
Do
you think as a modern society we compartmentalize our experience
of spirituality, meaning we relegate our religious experience to
one day of the week when we go to church or temple?

I'm not sure why we
do that because it doesn't seem to be consistent with what the great
spiritual teachers over the years have taught us. But I think it is
definitely true that we have made the Sabbath of whatever tradition
a day of special observance and the rest of the time we forget about
our spirituality. The trend I see now is people really looking for
a way to bring spirituality out of the heavens, out of the ethereal,
out of the abstract and into everyday experience.
Do
you think as a modern society we compartmentalize our experience
of spirituality, meaning we relegate our religious experience to
one day of the week when we go to church or temple?
I'm not sure why we
do that because it doesn't seem to be consistent with what the great
spiritual teachers over the years have taught us. But I think it is
definitely true that we have made the Sabbath of whatever tradition
a day of special observance and the rest of the time we forget about
our spirituality. The trend I see now is people really looking for
a way to bring spirituality out of the heavens, out of the ethereal,
out of the abstract and into everyday experience. Of course whenever
you start to get experiential you start to get everyday. Then you
have to figure out why playing with your dog is a spiritual experience
or cooking dinner is a spiritual experience. Or eating alone or with
someone else is a spiritual experience. Everything that you do can
be a spiritual experience if you look at in a certain way.
Can
spiritual literacy be translated simply as "mindfulness" or "consciousness"
as we perform an activity in our daily lives?
Some spirituality
is about those type of practices. In fact when Fred and I were putting
together this book of 650 spiritual readings on everyday life, we
discovered that, when we were going through deciding what passages
to include, we needed to define what made the passages we chose specifically
spiritual. So to get to that point we began to talk about different
indicators or markers of spirituality and that became what we call
the "Alphabet of Spiritual Literacy." We look at elements like "Attention."
If a passage revealed that someone is being attentive then it becomes
a spiritual reading. We have passages about beauty, passages about
being present and coming into your senses. Those are spiritual practices.
Now, those three are concepts that you associate more with Eastern
spirituality than Western spirituality. But we also have "Compassion,"
"Faith," "Grace," and "Gratitude" which cut across all the spiritual
traditions. We have "Devotion" which is very important in Judaism
but cuts across all the traditions. The "Alphabet of Spiritual Literacy"
became the backbone of the book. It became our way of identifying
why something was a spiritual experience. And when we finished the
book, we decided to categorize all the excerpts according to the alphabet
practices for the index. So if you look in the index under "play",
for example, you'll find all the examples for the different chapters
about the spirituality of play. I was very pleased by this because
I was able to categorize and see how these different practices were
illustrated by the book.
What
about this modern phenomenon of dismissing everything blessed or
amazing that happens in our life as merely "coincidence?" Instead
of seeing the spirituality in a specific experience, we tend to
pass it off with skepticism, calling it coincidental.

It's interesting because
I think a lot of spiritual teachers would say that nothing happens
by chance, that there are no coincidences, that coincidences are something
that are part of a divine plan. Of course, we also have free will
so you can get theological about it all. But I think it is unfortunate
that we as a society are willing to dismiss things as being "flaky,"
for instance, or say it's just coincidence. Why not just go the other
direction and say "this [experience] has deep meaning?" Everything
has deep meaning and when you start to look at life that way, your
whole perspective on life changes.
What
about the person who says "I don't have time to look at my life
spiritually!" I have kids, I have laundry, I barely have enough
time for myself or my partner. Are you saying that everything, even
the drudgery in life, can be a spiritual experience?

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Actually, we do have
sections in the book that cover just that. We have sections on the
spiritual experience of sorting socks and doing chores. First of all,
you don't have to start by making a spiritual reading of everything
that happens in a day. The last chapter of the book is called "A day
in a spiritual life" and in it, we have 50 different examples of things
that could happen to you on a typical day and how you can look at
them spiritually. So what I like to think of is that it only takes
a few spiritual moments to make things seem a lot more meaningful
overall. Just look for a few moments. There is a passage in the book
about a man ironing a shirt and how he uses this experience as a way
of connecting with the woman from his childhood who taught him to
iron. He uses the experience of ironing as a pause in his day, as
a meditative period. He also uses it for a practice of attention because
when you iron you have to pay attention to the details. So there's
three practices right there from simply ironing a shirt: Being present,
connection and attention. To simply recognize and name what you're
doing, then you have more spirituality infusing in it. If the kids
are screaming and the TV is blaring and the soup is burning, those
are kind of like shadow experiences. That is a time for you to step
back and ask is there anything I can do to slow down? Is there anything
I can do to reframe this experience and learn from it?
It
also seems like people today are addicted to "busyness" because
we're afraid of sitting with ourselves. We fill our lives with so
much stimuli and activity so we can't possibly pause and experience
a moment.

Busyness and distraction
are two of the blocks to literacy that we talk about in the book.
Another one we've just mentioned is cynicism. This idea that "oh,
you're reading too much into a certain experience." And cynicism is
also reflected in this "lighten up" idea. You know, people who say
"lighten up! This isn't brain surgery!" I love that expression because
it's saying that somehow something can't be serious unless it's a
matter of life and death like brain surgery! But there are lots of
serious things in life that are not life and death experiences.
What
about the charge that this whole practice is a little too idealistic?
That looking at the world in a spiritually literate way is to wear
rose-colored glasses?

This book is not about
being Pollyannish. Something we worked into the book deliberately
was the idea of the "shadow" self. In the spiritual traditions, this
would be called sin or evil. It's this idea that there is a part of
all of us that we deny, that we don't like, that we sometimes dislike
so intensely that we project it onto someone else and we do that as
society to other ethnic groups and to other nations. What we're saying
with the practice of shadow is that you have to recognize these elements
in yourself and deal with them. There is a line in the book from Richard
Rohr who says that in spirituality, there is nothing that doesn't
fit, everything belongs, including these shadow elements of ourselves.
The
Yin and Yang.
Exactly. And he quotes
St. Francis of Assisi who said you have to love the leper within.
For example, many people have a romanticized view of nature. They
have awe-filled experiences in nature and come to a whole reverence
for life. At the same time, you don't want to romanticize nature to
the point that you've made it into some sort of false idol because
nature has downsides too. It has tornadoes, floods, hurricanes and
brutality. We have a passage in the book from Richard Bass who lives
in Montana about why you shouldn't go out in a blizzard to get wood
for your woodstove because you might not find your way back. In our
chapter about animals, we have a really powerful passage by Mary Oliver
about how the great-horned owl likes to eat the brains of rabbits
and kittens. And then she concludes that the world that this owl lives
in is the same world she lives in. There is a unity of all creation.
This is just the way this owl is. There is an openness there and a
respect for the mystery of the world. That's an important part of
the book and I think it's something that people coming out a deep
religious tradition will understand. It hasn't been emphasized as
much in the kind of freelance spirituality of positive living that
we see these days. But certainly anyone deeply rooted in any one of
the traditions would recognize it.
This
book gives people a grounded approach to spiritual practice and
gives people daily activities that they can do on their own, or
with their families or neighbors, in order to integrate some of
the "Alphabet of Spirituality" that you talk about in your book.
We didn't want to
just give examples from great writers writing on spiritual experiences.
We wanted to point out that this is available to all of us and it
is not difficult. It doesn't require that you climb the ladder of
enlightenment. Anyone can practice spiritual literacy on a daily basis.
At the end of each chapter we have a couple pages of exercises called
"Practicing Spiritual Literacy". Some of them are journal exercises.
Some of them are conversation topics. Some of them are household projects
and we always try to include some that could be done with children.
And then we have activities that are more traditional spiritual exercises:
blessings, rituals, prayers, studies of some of the spiritual concepts
like the Sabbath, for example. Once again, we are saying that everyone
can practice spiritual literacy and we hope that people will use the
passages to think more closely about what they can do in their daily
lives. There are rituals spread throughout the book, like the ritual
of blessing a new house, and we are hoping that these very specific
examples that are written out will encourage people to start doing
some of these practices themselves.
And
it seems these examples of rituals are a great way for people to
begin to reinvest their own family traditions with their original
meaning. Thanksgiving and Christmas have, for the most part, become
rather hollow markers of an occasion but the meaning itself has
been lost.
>And it doesn't
take much to reinvest the meaning back into a family ritual. Take
something like Christmas, for example. You can simply add the practice
of connections to the experience. You can think about all the ways
your family throughout history has celebrated Christmas and then
you are connecting with your ancestors. For example, I'm not just
making this particular dish at Christmas because I always make it
around the holiday time but when I make this dish, I connect with
my grandmother because it's her recipe. You can also connect with
what is symbolically important to you by the kind of gifts you give
during the holidays. Or you can connect with the people in your
community by volunteering your time or giving extra contributions
during Christmas. You can also connect with your faith tradition
by the extra worship services at that time. So there are many ways
to make holidays rich with spiritual practice.
Do
you have a favorite passage in this book?

Oh, there are so many!
I think that a favorite concept in the book is the idea that, no matter
what religious tradition we come from, we need to expand our concept
of what we consider spiritual in our lives. Brother David Steindl-Rast
has a wonderful passage in the book in which he says that spirituality
is a vital awareness in your life and it is the part of your life
where you come alive. So if you come alive in creative pursuit like
music or art , that's where you are spiritual. If you come alive in
your relationships or in your partnerships, then that is where you
are being spiritual. Some people come alive when they are at work.
Some people come alive when they are caring for animals. Or they come
alive and feel that vital awareness when they are in nature. The point
is to start to point and identify the area in your life in which you
feel most alive and recognize that as spiritual connection. You're
connecting to something greater than yourself there that is nourishing
you. You are connecting to something that is sacred. Once you find
that one area, you can start expanding it to other areas of your experience
and I think it's just a very simple way to say that no matter how
busy you are, no matter how distracted, how pressured, you can find
one moment every day in which you feel alive. That's the point. To
find that, treasure that, and then extend it to other areas.
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